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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:43 pm    Post subject: Cheap Bike Sat Nav Reply with quote

Saw this, which looks good value, thought I would share it with you.


Guaranteed to take you where no other Sat Nav could (or would) Shocked


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey, I've got one of these and it seems to always take me where I want to go....well i think it does anyway. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dormouse wrote:
Hey, I've got one of these and it seems to always take me where I want to go....well i think it does anyway. Confused


Dormouse - are you becoming a Buddhist, or an Existentialist or something? Don't you know when you get to where you want to be? Or is it a case of "It is better to travel with hope in the heart....blahblah"?

Personally I always make a point of wanting to be where I am, while bearing in mind that where I am is always on the way to somewhere better.......Sufi-ism!

It also saves an awful lot of trouble trying to plan a route! Wink

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

say that again in English please Tilla Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK - don't worry that you may have missed the best bit - make the most of what is happening now and keep cheerful by believing that things are improving


OR

love the ride you're on and know that the road gets better

"The Tao of Motorcycle Maintenance" and "The Road Less Travelled" as translated by yours truly

(Christ - how hard it is to raise the tone on these pages!)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh Tilla ~ I suggest that you make individual color channel adjustments to your monitor's gamma look-up table (LUT) before modifying those on your video card's LUT. The "look-up table" is what is used to map requested colors to displayed colors. You may have a 6500K color preset in your monitor's settings. 6500K is called the "color temperature", which is measured in Kelvins (K). 6500K is the temperature of daylight sun and is regarded as an industry standard for displaying images, so 6500K should be our goal. Note that there are exceptions: for photo work you may prefer a warmer image at 5000K, which I will explain later. To adjust the monitor's LUT, switch to the User/Custom color control. Some LCDs (notably LGs) have a control labeled "gamma" within the monitor setup. This will make adjustments to all the primaries (red, green, and blue) at once, however we need more specific adjustment, so for such LCDs, I would leave 'gamma' at zero (middle) and stick to User controls. We are switching to User because the 6500K preset in the monitor is rarely tuned to a precise 6500K temperature. That will depend on your unit. Besides that, even though 6500K is regarded as the end goal for color reproduction, the monitor will not necessarily perform its best at 6500K.

Once at the User color setting, you will probably have drastically different settings than at 6500K, so I recommend getting it to look like 6500K and then making the adjustments. However, if you're confident you have a good sense of what a neutral gray looks like, you may not need to bother with that.

To adjust your video card's LUT, I recommend you grab RivaTuner. You should use the monitor's user color settings to reduce overall washout, and then use RivaTuner to fine tune it all. To enter the gamma adjustment panel, click the RivaTuner button.

Video card-based color adjustment

You can choose to adjust one color channel at a time or all of them at once. I recommend you do the former to obtain the best results. With RivaTuner, you can even define a custom curve, so you can lower the gamma in the midtone areas of color if they look washed out. You do this by creating reference points on a curve and moving them around. Make adjustments carefully and make sure your grayscale looks as it should. Get all the gray tones to look neutral (so none are tinted red/green/blue), and make sure your desktop doesn't look washed out. If, for example, green looks washed out, lower the gamma for the green channel. Don't veer too far off course with these gamma adjustments as you are reducing your dynamic range, but having 230 colors displayed faithfully is better than having 255 displayed poorly, and adjusting gamma is the basis of all professional color calibration tools.

Hope this helps

Bunglemeister

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bungle please please limit your booze when on the forum, because your in danger of making things complicated!!!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think , Bungle, you may have somewhat misunderstood Tilla's statement that it was difficult to raise the tone on this site. I was going to suggest turning down the bass frequency, flattening out the mid and wacking up the top end,this will usually raise the tone (it's the only thing I can raise at my age...just before some other bright spark remarks on it). I can provide the instruction in English, Welsh Gaelic,and Hebrew just by getting pi**ed and trying to talk normally.I tell you what though Bungle me old marrow, I see you in a new light now you've raised the tone Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barzy please note he is not Bungle any more he is now.....drum roll..(although I prefer cheese and pickle)....the BUNGLEMEISTER. please use due deference when addressing our learned friend who is obviously a leading light in this area (but obviously not a rear light sometimes)...If you dont know dont ask it's so trivial. Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i am so glad I am in france at least I sort of understand them.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you understand the French, can you please explain them to the rest of the world miss. Smile

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

no problem they ignore all silly rules drink all day make great cakes, like bikes ,stand up for what they believe in and best of all sell the brightest pinkist crash helmets you have ever seen and yes I brought it they also sell harleys
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They have just gone up in my estimation lots and lots. Do you want to see my pink he**** although I didnt get it in France and it has been purple before now!

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bungle wrote:
ahh Tilla ~ I suggest that you make individual color channel adjustments to your monitor's gamma look-up table (LUT) before modifying those on your video card's LUT. The "look-up table" is what is used to map requested colors to displayed colors. You may have a 6500K color preset in your monitor's settings. 6500K is called the "color temperature", which is measured in Kelvins (K). 6500K is the temperature of daylight sun and is regarded as an industry standard for displaying images, so 6500K should be our goal. Note that there are exceptions: for photo work you may prefer a warmer image at 5000K, which I will explain later. To adjust the monitor's LUT, switch to the User/Custom color control. Some LCDs (notably LGs) have a control labeled "gamma" within the monitor setup. This will make adjustments to all the primaries (red, green, and blue) at once, however we need more specific adjustment, so for such LCDs, I would leave 'gamma' at zero (middle) and stick to User controls. We are switching to User because the 6500K preset in the monitor is rarely tuned to a precise 6500K temperature. That will depend on your unit. Besides that, even though 6500K is regarded as the end goal for color reproduction, the monitor will not necessarily perform its best at 6500K.

Once at the User color setting, you will probably have drastically different settings than at 6500K, so I recommend getting it to look like 6500K and then making the adjustments. However, if you're confident you have a good sense of what a neutral gray looks like, you may not need to bother with that.

To adjust your video card's LUT, I recommend you grab RivaTuner. You should use the monitor's user color settings to reduce overall washout, and then use RivaTuner to fine tune it all. To enter the gamma adjustment panel, click the RivaTuner button.

Video card-based color adjustment

You can choose to adjust one color channel at a time or all of them at once. I recommend you do the former to obtain the best results. With RivaTuner, you can even define a custom curve, so you can lower the gamma in the midtone areas of color if they look washed out. You do this by creating reference points on a curve and moving them around. Make adjustments carefully and make sure your grayscale looks as it should. Get all the gray tones to look neutral (so none are tinted red/green/blue), and make sure your desktop doesn't look washed out. If, for example, green looks washed out, lower the gamma for the green channel. Don't veer too far off course with these gamma adjustments as you are reducing your dynamic range, but having 230 colors displayed faithfully is better than having 255 displayed poorly, and adjusting gamma is the basis of all professional color calibration tools.

Hope this helps

Bunglemeister


I think that this is Bungle, in his sweet bumbling way, telling me that I am viewing the world through rose tinted specs, but hey - reality sucks so I'm happy and deluded, so what!


PS I think the French are what the English set out to be and didn't quite get to. They have gateaux, we have lardy cake, they have tabacs and we have greasy spoons, they respect two wheels and we think its a way people avoid paying proper road tax, they had a revolution, we had an uprising, they believe in liberty, equaliy and brotherhood, we believe in a stiff upper lip.......

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